Thanks alot, saw a screenie of the Lily theme on the xfce forums but the original only had an emerald windowborder theme but now i can fully enjoy this awesome theme without any beryl crap needed , awesome
i really like this theme. consequently, i've changed fg[PRELIGHT], bg[SELECTED], text[ACTIVE], and text[SELECTED] to make a range of different colours. i know have blue, pink, purple, green, olive, sky, and a lot of others.
i personally think that the murrina engine is one of the best theming engines out there.